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2007-10-09

Baleiken, Iñaki Agirrezabalagari eta Andoni Etxanizi elkarrizketa

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Anónimo dijo...: Ezin izan dut ireki linka, baina gauza bitxia! biak batera agertzea.
Zertarako? Andonik zuzentzeko Iñaki marratik ez pasatzea?; 9/10/07 13:27
Anónimo dijo...: Andan finos en Baleike.
A la anterior alcaldesa tardaron tres años en publicarle una entrevista. A estos, tres meses.; 9/10/07 15:16
Rafa Saiz Elizondo dijo...: Este comentario ha sido eliminado por el autor.; 9/10/07 17:42
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Anónimo dijo...: Para Tarrat:
en este blog a lo mejor tienes mas suerte que otros en baleike donde eres un habitual colaborador y te dejan expresarte libremente, sin censurarte.¿A que vienes a postear en este preguntando sobre un tema diferente del que has entrado?
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La noticia de la nueva tarea de la anterior edil,ya apareció en tu habitual web ,y tuviste oportunidad de regalarnos con tu habitual retórica "anti-todo-lo-que-huela-a-EAJ-PNV", y alguno ya nos alecciono con los tópicos habituales de la izquierda abertzale.¿por que no lo has hecho allí?
Vienes a este blog, con la única misión de intentar sembrar entre sus ocasionales usuarios dudas, desconfianzas,respuestas malsonantes, discusiones con mal rollo ,logrando con ello, que no aportan nada, que nos acabemos desligando de colaborar en el sitio cutre que creo pretendes crear.Un troll, en el argot, que si no sabes lo que es que te lo explique tu amigo de web de seudonimo Wali.
Por mi parte es la ultima vez que obtendrás ninguna respuesta de mi a comentarios tuyos.; 9/10/07 18:47
Anónimo dijo...: PARA ERTZ:
Dices que este troll tiene fijación sobre los cambios de responsabilidades de nuestros electos o afiliados al partido y es verdad. Mira, esta es la "perla que introdujo en baleike refiriendose a Axier esnal, antiguo concejal , cuando comenzó a desarrollar una nueva labor en la sociedad para la regeneración del puerto de Pasajes:
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Egia al da, ala gezurra, Jaizubiak propio zure eta beste bi kargu ohien bila joan zela eta ez zuela deialdi publikorik egin?

Egia al da, ala gezurra, zuen lan-kontratu laboral eta ez-politiko hori blindatuta dagoela eta inoiz kaleratzen baldin bazaituztete aparteko kalte-ordaina ordaintzea adostu duela Jaizkibiak zuekin, legeek agintzen dutena baino askoz ere handiagoa, hain zuzen?

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Zure egiazaletasun handiak inongo eragozpenik ipiniko ez dizulakoan, eskerrik asko."""
Como verás, no nos vamos a dejar engañar con sus tendenciosas preguntas-acusaciones veladas ¿verdad? Eso para otro tipo de público.
Por mi parte también vacío hacia él.; 9/10/07 19:30
Anónimo dijo...: Blogaren sarrera beste gai bati buruz zen.
Mesedez ez nahastu gaiak eta ez egin jaramonik holako gonbidatuei.
Soilik, gaia desbideratu eta okertu nahi dute.
Eskerrik asko.
Nik uste dut biak batera agertzea,garrantzi haundia duela, ala ez?; 9/10/07 19:50
Anónimo dijo...: ¡Hola gente!!. Acabo de leer las entradas anteriores, y, oigan, qué pena... Con lo apasionante que es opinar sobre el tandem en el gobierno, y se me van ustedes por las ramas! Hablando de habilidades técnicas... no me negarán que éstos sí que las tienen, técnicas, estilísticas y éticas. Tanto monta... monta tanto... Antonio como Ignacio (se me permita la licencia de estilo). ¡Y lo bien que se llevan, y lo que se complementan!, tanto que en este pueblo no hay alcalde, sino dos. Que más vale que sobre que no que falte, y por lo tanto, no sé de qué se quejan! Jajajaja: para hacer la mitad son el doble. Y a quien le pique... no le falta razón.; 9/10/07 20:24
Anónimo dijo...: Bisita berri horrek,hala edo honela gai horrekin hika-mika sortu nahi du. Baleiken ez du erantzunik izan, eta hemen, ez diogu gusto hori emango, ezta?; 9/10/07 20:37
Rafa Saiz Elizondo dijo...: Eskerrik asko nire galdera hemen egokitzen ez dela adierazi didazuenoi (euskaldun zein belarrimotz). Beraz, non plazara nezake erantzun bat izateko?

Eskerrik asko berriz ere.; 10/10/07 09:54
Rafa Saiz Elizondo dijo...: Ah! Ni ez naiz PNVren aurkakoa.

Bai ordea lapurretaren aurkakoa. Etxea ondo garbitzea eta txukun atxikitzea norberaren ardura da.; 10/10/07 10:27
Anónimo dijo...: Han transcurrido 100 dias de gobierno del tándem "los dos alcaldes". Al contrario de "patapalo", creo que uno monta más que otro. Como decía, han pasado 100 dias y han hecho su "puesta de largo" en su DIARIO OFICIAL (presuntamente independiente), donde parece han explicado "sus" proyectos de futuro. Si lo que dicen en el resumen es lo más importante de cada uno de los seis proyectos a que hacen referencia, una de dos: o se han pasado estos 100 dias tumbados "a la bartola", viendo pasar los dias o todavía peor, tienen falta de conocimiento e imaginación para poder trazar nuevos proyectos que nos ilusionen como zumaiarras.
Toda esta movida para hechar del Ayuntamiento al PNV para:
1.- Poner techo al frontón. Del complicadísimo proyecto iniciado por el PNV (que sirvió de excusa para que EA rompiera el gobierno)de Odieta y Beheko plaza, NI HABLAR. ¿Iñaki está ahora de acuerdo con el proyecto de Odieta?, o sus discrepancias sólo se referían a poner techo al frontón? Cuantas mentiras hemos tenido que oir.Claro que todo esto nunca lo aclararán. NO INTERESA.
2.-Las viviendas protegidas no se deben hacer vía cooperativa. Pero SI LA LEY ACTUAL LO IMPIDE. Como Iñaki no sabe o no quiere (viendo los buenísimos resultados en cuanto a vivienda protegida que ha tenido la política del PNV)poner en práctica otro plan distinto, para diferenciarse del actual, el del PNV, suelta esa tontería. Como siempre, medias verdades y mentiras.
3.- Proyecto para un nuevo puente. Miles de veces discutido. Por cierto, Andoni no tiene nada que decir? Ahora no hay impactos visuales, consultas a Zumaia bizirik....? Todas esas cosas y más eran necesarias cuando un proyecto lo iniciaba el PNV. Dirán que todo eso se discutirá cuando los proyectos estén en manos del Ayuntamiento. Lo mismo decía el PNV, y siempre HB, Batasuna o la sigla de turno contestaba que todo era falso, que el PNV ya había elegido el proyecto y que todo era un "paripé" para "vestir el muñeco". Ahora en cambio todo será transparente y objetivo. CUANTA HIPOCRESIA.
4.- Otro Haurtzandegi. Pero si el PNV en el anterior gobierno ya lo tuvo en cuenta e incluso creo que lo presupuestó. Lo quería hacer en los locales del Amaia, donde estaba el Ayuntamiento provisionalmente. Pero claro, como estos locales los han adjudicado a los colegas de AEK, pues hay que buscar otro sitio y de paso para que no se note y no haya que dar otro tipo de explicaciones se dice que el PNV tuvo falta de previsión. VAYA MORRO TIENEN
5.- Van a hacer un plan de movilidad. Pero SI ESTA HECHO. Ni lo habrán leido. Cuesta menos esfuerzo pagar con dinero de todos un estudio y que luego me lo cuenten a leer y analizar un documento. Lo dicho al principio, han estado 100 días tumbados "a la bartola".
6.- Más personal de brigada. Bueno, veremos cuanto más cuesta esa decisión, porque seguro que cuesta mucho más y que resultados tiene. ¿Estará con esta decisión el pueblo mejor cuidado y más txukuna que en la legislatura anterior? SE ADMITEN APUESTAS; 10/10/07 11:30
Anónimo dijo...: Pero que ocurre en este Ayuntamiento?
No me creo que estén de acuerdo en todas las decisiones que toman
Por tanto cuando chocan, quien impone a quién?.
Alguno de los dos dirá basta en alguna ocasión o van a estar los cuatro años de colegas?
Y a ver si informan por otro conducto, por ejemplo Paola, que no sea la revista subvencionada y que no todos los zumaiarras leen.; 10/10/07 11:48
Anónimo dijo...: Querido "Aita Mari", como dice "anónimo" yo tambien pienso que uno "monta" más que otro. Yo tengo muy claro quien manda. Si quieres una prueba mira lo que ha pasado con Odieta. Cuando el gobierno de EA-PNV presentó este proyecto en la legislatura anterior, a Iñaki le pareció un proyecto tan malo, tan ilegal, tan marbellí, tan prepotente, tan injusto...que lo utilizó como excusa para romper el gobierno. Peo ahora que es alcalde, HACE LO MISMO que quería hacer el PNV. Eso sí, poniendo techo al frontón, para que se diferencie en algo. Quién ha hecho que cambie de opinión? Por supuesto Andoni, porque sabe que el presentado por el PNV, es el mejor proyecto posible para Odieta y porque sabe (para eso se han reunido muchísimas veces) que la postura de Iñaki sobre Odieta era una "pose", mero cálculo político para ir abriendo brecha con el PNV, para diferenciarse de este partido, sabiendo como sabía que no iban a presentarse juntos a las elecciones. Todo esto ha pasado y nunca nos lo contarán, pero Iñaki algo tendrá que decir publicamente sobre este cambio de postura sobre Odieta. Nos lo debe a los que votamos a la coalición EA-PNV, porque su postura sobre Odieta en aquel momento fué la que rompió la coalición.; 10/10/07 15:19
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Anónimo dijo...: No he leído Baleike hasta este fin de semana, que ha llegado uno a mis manos y realmente lo que me llama la atención no es el reportaje en si, sino otra cuestión:
Como permite el alcalde una entrevista a dos, una entrevista tutelada, no sea que te pases, y no es capaz de exigir, digo exigir, que la entrevista se me hace a mí, que por mucho que haya acuerdo el alcalde soy yo.Voy a responderme yo mismo como hacen otros: Porque me tienen cogido por los... y tengo que empezar a pagar el precio de los votos que cogí y no tengo... para decirle a Andoni esta entrevista es para mi y tú no sales. Porque claro lo que a Andoni Etxaniz le hubiera gustado una entrevista exclusiva para el, pero tampoco se ha atrevido, pero me da que todo llegará, porque, quien maneja Baleike, aparte de los periodistas independientes?; 29/10/07 11:17
Anónimo dijo...: Para Iñaki el problema de Odieta no era el techo del frontón, el problema era que la intervención de la Lantzen esa les estropeaba el negocio a su padre que era el "privado" que estaba negociando con propietarios del area.
A ver si nos vamos enterando.
Razón: Aita Mari.; 2/11/07 19:04
Anónimo dijo...: Kaixo. Soy un zumaiarra desde hace 2 años,que vinimos a vivir aquí mi mujer y yo, desde otro sitio de Guipúzcoa. Vinimos a vivir aqui por tema laboral y porque siempre nos había gustado Zumaia,y veiamos que en los últimos años había mejorado bastante. Cual es nuestra sorpresa,que al poco de venir,en las elecciones municipales pasó lo que todos sabemos. Y desde entonces ha sucedido lo que me temía,que tenemos unos ineptos en el ayuntamiento,un gixajo de alcalde que con tal de mantenerse en el sillón hace todo lo que le dice el ANVero. Casi todos los proyectos parados,y lo poco que sale adelante es lo que lanzó el anterior gobierno, y encima se lo están atribuyendo ellos.
Hay una lentitud consistorial muy preocupante.
Pero lo de la guardería ya me tocó totalmente los...Como bien sabe el alcalde por los mails intercambiados con él.Ha sido una vergÚenza este tema,lo de darles a los de AEK ese local y mandar a los niños a los barracones...en uno de los pueblos de más natalidad de Euskadi!!!!
La pena es que no se puedan adelantar las elecciones municipales...
Aprovecho para saludaros a todos,que os he seguido desde hace unas semanas, y me ha satisfecho encontrar gente del pueblo con la que estoy de acuerdo.; 25/2/08 21:48
Anónimo dijo...: El PNV dice, para reurbanizar el barrio de Basustabidea («pedimos 1.200.000 euros y han aprobado solo 100.000»), Yo tengo que decir algo sobre los años de mandato del PNV, durante estos años, tanto en la epoca de Peña, como en la epoca de Maria Eugenia Arrizabalaga no se hizo nada en Basustabidea y si algo se hizo fue gracias a la presion de los vecinos, teniendo a veces que acudir al Ararteko para que se nos tuviera en cuenta, todas ellas con la razon de nuestra parte y siempre el Ayuntamiento haciendo oido sordos a nuestras peticiones o mareando la perdiz para no hacer nada.Pero lo peor fue la desfachatez de Maria Eugenia Arrizabalaga y Lide Amilibia que durante el mandato no acudieron nunca a Basustabidea y sin embargo tuvieron la cara de ir casa por casa pidiendo el voto la vispera de la jornada de reflexion de las ultimas elecciones municipales. El actual alcalde Iñaki Arrizabalaga junto a la arquitecta ya a visitado el barrio y a estado con los vecinos viendo los problemas que hay, cosa que ustedes los del PNV nunca hicieron.; 12/4/08 14:48
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